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  • @looped said:
    With Roli's Theramin-like device and this, I think they're running out of ideas.

    Reminds me of the Roland expressive ring thingy that got discontinued. I’m sure Roli will give the device to artists that we admire to create buzz.

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    The more I tinker with Note, the more Move seems intriguing. It seems like one of those devices that is more fun to use than the specs suggest 👍 @Tarekith

  • I’m so on the fence with this one. Despite the limitations, you can do a lot with it, as a sketchpad, controller, basic sampler, even as an instrument in its own right. Build quality looks good too.

    Not tempting me enough to hit the buy button yet, but looking forward to seeing some user vids, once they get their hands on it.

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    @Danny_Mammy said:
    it's a little ironic as I believe if Ableton move had MPE functionality or 8 tracks rather than 4 tracks the machine would have been much more well received.

    personally, I would have bought it if it had MPE for a second Ableton live controller even if i don't like the small screen.

    also the YouTube content which drives sales could had been better if the machine had 8 tracks.

    This sums it up for me as well.

    It's a swing and a miss for my needs.

  • @oldsynthguy said:
    I’m so on the fence with this one. Despite the limitations, you can do a lot with it, as a sketchpad, controller, basic sampler, even as an instrument in its own right. Build quality looks good too.

    Not tempting me enough to hit the buy button yet, but looking forward to seeing some user vids, once they get their hands on it.

    I got close 😂 I’m sure I will soon

  • @Tarekith said:
    One of the best things about using Move is how it syncs with your Cloud project saves from Note and vice versa. So I can start a project on my phone, then finish working on it with hardware back in the studio. Or vice versa, use the new midi editing on Note to adjust things I started on Move. Works great, I love this more than I thought I would. We’re getting 8 cloud saves as of today instead of the original 5 too.

    No MPE because it would have raised the price too much for what they are targeting. Not more than 4 tracks for the same reason.

    I’m glad there is no MPE. I dreamt about this, almost exactly… 😂

  • So , presumably the Note beta testers didn’t know about Move , & Ableton development team have been working on this hidden agenda during all their Note interactions .
    So when devs said x or y wasn’t feasible for Note requests ,they were also secretly referring to Move .
    Seems Berlin is still the home of double agents .

    Regarding the device it’s too limited for this ipad owner , especially only 4 tracks ,
    but I would suggest the devs look to implement max4live & Live 12 midi transformations & generator functionality rather than full DAW development - if it is meant to be an idea generating sketch pad it should be veering towards
    Torso T1 & NDLR creation possibilities .

  • 4 Tracks seems counter productive for this stage in the process for me. How are you supposed to experiment with different layers and combinations at that stage if you can only ever have 4 things in parallel?

  • I was just mulling over a good device to use as an audio input mixer into Move when I realised the Joyo Momix pro is perfect - small, battery powered, hi-z instrument input and phantom mic power. I’ve had one for a few months and it’s already proved itself useful in many ways beyond that which I originally bought it for (as a dual iOS audio interface). Paired with Move it should be just the job for sampling non line level sources.

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  • @kirmesteggno said:
    4 Tracks seems counter productive for this stage in the process for me. How are you supposed to experiment with different layers and combinations at that stage if you can only ever have 4 things in parallel?

    Don’t forget you can have a drum rack on each track that holds 16 chromatically playable samples too.

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    @Tarekith said:

    Don’t forget you can have a drum rack on each track that holds 16 chromatically playable samples too.

    Yeah, this seems like a secret weapon being overlooked by a few.

    Is the Ableton Cloud sync two -way? Can I make changes to a set in Live that is then reflected back in Move?

  • Had a play and super impressed with the build quality, and overall thoughtful design. But it's just not something that's scratching an itch for me. However, it's one of those devices that screams "instrument" and not midi controller, and I have a feeling it will become a cult item over time.

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  • Thanks Danny

  • If 4 track limit is firmware and expands to 8, I'd be on onboard. Agreed that MPE is a missed opportunity here.

  • Caved and bought one. Been a while since I bought any gear so…

  • Not sure how powerful the processor is to be able to handle 8 tracks.

  • Hopefully these Preset names scroll left after a second or so?

  • I like the design and the size but I would like a bit more robust sampling editing and more tracks. Of course I assume some of this will be added via software. I am sure they already have a roadmap for move 2: bluetooth midi, mpe pads, 8 tracks (which may come to this version via software), and hopefully a bit larger screen.

  • @jonmoore said:
    Had a play and super impressed with the build quality, and overall thoughtful design. But it's just not something that's scratching an itch for me. However, it's one of those devices that screams "instrument" and not midi controller, and I have a feeling it will become a cult item over time.

    Me too💯

  • @jonmoore said:
    Had a play and super impressed with the build quality, and overall thoughtful design. But it's just not something that's scratching an itch for me. However, it's one of those devices that screams "instrument" and not midi controller, and I have a feeling it will become a cult item over time.

    Can you play chords in 16 levels mode?

  • @drez said:
    Not sure how powerful the processor is to be able to handle 8 tracks.

    I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for more than 4 tracks.

  • @sonorafilms said:
    Can you play chords in 16 levels mode?

    Not currently.

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    I know that everyone is complaining about it only having 4 Tracks.

    But if you are a heavy Sample Resample type of producer it’s actually potentially 64 Pads of sounds equalling 256 minutes of audio. If you then tie in 32 Scenes this thing can create a ton of music for a producer.

    This is how i see it fitting in my workflow now that i have embraced the Sample Dragon of music creation 🤪

    In my mind and thinking about my workflow this is going to fit nicely in my backpack and allow me to do 80% of what i already do on the iPhone in Note and on the iPad in Drambo.

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    @Tarekith said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    4 Tracks seems counter productive for this stage in the process for me. How are you supposed to experiment with different layers and combinations at that stage if you can only ever have 4 things in parallel?

    Don’t forget you can have a drum rack on each track that holds 16 chromatically playable samples too.

    Thanks, this looks better. Do you know if it's possible to trigger more than one sample within a drum rack with the same sequencer step? E.g to trigger a kick and click sound within the same drum kit at the same time.

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    @Danny_Mammy said:
    If Ableton move had 8 tracks or MPE i probably had bought it.

    Me too, straight away. And I’d have paid more. 8 tracks for a fast, standalone ideas device, MPE for a cool little desktop controller.

    I think after sleeping on it though, there are just too many limitations for my requirements, and Note on iOS is really ticking the boxes now for mobile sketching.

  • Quite a few places are dropping their prices of the Circuit Tracks and Rhythm at the moment. Shop around and you might be able to get both for the same price (or close) as the Ableton Move. Definitely an option as the two Circuits go reasonable well together.

    As for the Ableton Move. I think it looks decent and if you use Live and can see the point. If they add control surface over note and some improved sequencer use, I can see why some would buy one. Personally even with the use of multiple sounds in the drum rack, the track count would bug me now I’ve moved back to a linear DAW.

    While the price is ok if you start comparing against some older devices that can be bought discounted, it tends to look slightly expensive - always the problem for new gear. Would I prefer to spend double for an MC707 and get much more for my money, if I’m not bothered about portability? Would I prefer the Circuit options - portability, large track count and great dawless hub for adding gear - downside being some syncing bugs and no easy way to get everything into a DAW.

    To be honest, I would prefer Ableton make the Move be a great controller for iPad use and then I would consider it even with the low track count.

  • @Tarekith said:
    Yep!

    So all the 4 tracks drama boils down to insufficent communication, I mean they could have anticipated that they'd get a lot of negative reactions after the announcement.

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